The light blue lines indicate the (approximately) correct positions of the arm and side seam.
The red lines show where they are.
Then there's the fact that online shopping can be tedious for busty women. A number of stores catering to that demographic are either in the UK or in Poland. This is convenient for much of Europe but not so convenient for other locations (the words "Free Worldwide Shipping!" now have the power to make me teary-eyed). So they have to order multiple sizes or take a gamble and hope for the best, go through the hassle of returning items or trying to sell whatever doesn't fit, and that process often costs them more money than anticipated.
I wish the excitement when one of these arrives at the door wasn't tempered
by the fear of returns.
There's a second cost-related issue. I'm almost sure that many people, like me, prefer having a certain amount of money in their accounts at all times for emergencies/bills/etc. So I've always wondered if online retailers could have an option as follows: if you are ordering one bra in multiple sizes, you can pay for only one, but if the other sizes aren't returned in X amount of time, your PayPal/credit card/other account will then be charged. I am not a store owner/CEO/have never made decisions regarding corporate logistics, so I don't know if that or a similar setup is feasible, but I would be less hesitant to make purchases online if something like it were implemented. There are many extremely helpful online retailers who might help you figure out ways to reduce costs, but wouldn't it be great if this were a standard option?
Money aside, I also have to wonder if there are deeper, more emotional reasons that women might be reluctant to purchase D+ lingerie and clothing. I know there are for me. When I don't like how a shirt, dress or sweater fits my bust and say so, I often get responses like:
"Most people don't have clothes that fit perfectly."
"You're just too picky."
"But it looks good everywhere else. Can't you just ignore that?" or
"That's such a first world problem. Just be glad you have clothes."
Let me address the last of these first: I am glad that I have clothes. I am very lucky to have them. Just because I get frustrated by the fit of clothes and bras doesn't mean that these frustrations aren't, in the scheme of things, quite trivial. But clothes and bras that fit make me happy. I think it's OK to be happy about trivial matters sometimes and not to feel guilty about that happiness, as long as you ultimately keep your problems in perspective.
This video doesn't pertain to any major societal issue,
but can you not smile? Can you?
As for the other responses, it's as if people are saying, She obviously thinks she's some super special snowflake because of her body type; can't she just buy clothes from normal stores like the rest of us? All right, so I don't actually know that they're thinking this. But to the people who dole out these comments on a regular basis, please remember that this is what it can sound like to the recipient. Yes, almost all women have body parts that are difficult to fit, and settling isn't necessarily always bad, but at least acknowledge the exasperation that occurs when the same fit issues are encountered over and over again.
Especially when someone has an area that she is particularly self-conscious about, shrugging off her concerns or making her feel self-absorbed for bringing it up can feel like a slap in the face. Oh, you mean you've struggled with that part of yourself your whole life? Well, too bad; no one else cares! Because of this, I sometimes think other people unconsciously encourage busty women to settle for clothes that they would otherwise not buy. So when shopping with someone who doesn't like how something fits around the bust... or on the hips or waist or thighs or wherever... don't lightly dismiss those feelings or try to talk her into buying something she might not enjoy wearing; instead, be sympathetic and help her find something that she feels great in.
Have you ever settled when it comes to clothing? Did other people have any influence on your decision? I would love to hear if anyone thinks there are other reasons that women with larger chests might settle for less than what is available to them!
*Edit* I've decided to start adding reasons as readers suggest them, because I know there are others that I have forgotten or never thought of. Please let me know if you do not want your comment name displayed (if I get what appear to be real names, I will abbreviate them anyway :-) ), and I will change it!
- AE brings up the great point that some types of clothing are just not available from large bust brands, particularly heavier winter sweaters and coats (companies: hint hint).
- Chiharu writes that it is difficult to find items if you want something fashion-forward/less vintage inspired.
- A Sophisticated Pair weighed in on the "ordering a few sizes" issue: You'd essentially have to double or triple your inventory in order to support the potential for customers to be ordering way more than they plan on keeping. So you'd have to worry about stock on hand as well as what stock would need to be replenished. It's not an easy prospect, but I can see the appeal for the consumer. (Thanks for the input!)
- Anonymous says that shipping is still a hassle in other parts of Europe, and bra band sizes are still rarely seen below a 32 (and especially 30) there.
Let's not forget that some clothing isn't offered, not even by those busty shops. I've been happily replacing all my wardrobe with BiuBiu and Urkye (so happy about the blazers), but neither shop offers a cozy winter sweater. I buy sweaters that don't fit because I don't want to be cold (the same goes for my bulky winter coat which makes me look like a box) and things which fit me simply aren't available (yet?).
ReplyDeleteGreat point! I don't know how I left that out. I think I will add things to the post that commenters suggest :-).
DeleteAh yes, boxy coats. I also hope companies start making thicker winter outerwear. It isn't warm all the time where I live, but I can't imagine the lack of options for people who live in even colder regions!
As a fellow busty gal, I have to say I hate shopping. Whenever I go with my BFF (who wears a 30F), I get a little jealous because she can try on and rock ANYTHING! Meanwhile, I'm either working up a sweat trying to fit in my boobs, dealing with baggy tummy issues, or having crazy arm/shoulder fit issues. My lower half is curvy too, so there's no reprieve there either. Now, I essentially up the price I am willing to spend on a garment, lower the items in my wardrobe, and keep what I do have looking immaculate as long as possible. BiuBiu and Urkye have been godsends for me, but it would be nice to actually walk into a store and not leaving feeling frustrated.
ReplyDeleteRe the issue of ordering a few sizes: We looked into doing this at one point, and it's just a very tricky situation. You'd essentially have to double or triple your inventory in order to support the potential for customers to be ordering way more than they plan on keeping. So you'd have to worry about stock on hand as well as what stock would need to be replenished. It's not an easy prospect, but I can see the appeal for the consumer.
Sorry I didn't reply to this sooner; I was hoping you might be able to provide a store owner's opinion on the ordering, because I figured there was some logistical problem I wasn't thinking of (and there was!) :-).
DeleteI know the feeling of trying-on-gymnastics. I... uhh... had an arm dislocate out of a socket trying to pull something down in a dressing room once. That was quite an experience. Sometimes I wish I could just walk into a store and be able to fit in the clothes, even if they were totally not "my style."
There also aren't that many options for busty women if you want to wear something fashion forward and/or not vintage inspired.
ReplyDeleteThat is definitely true and something I didn't think of. A lot of stores/designers automatically put bustier women in more "classic" shapes and styles.
DeleteLiving in Europe doesn´t help either. If I order from the UK or Poland or Russia and it doesn´t fit, it cost me to send it back. So I pay the shipping fee to get it sent out to me in the first place and when I return it because it doesn´t fit another 10 or 15 Euros. Of course if I lived in the UK I´d have more free shipping options but I don´t, I live in northern Spain. It´s also not just clothing that´s an issue but also bras as the smallest back size I have encountered here is a 32 and that´s in brands that I know make them in 30 or smaller. The shops just don´t stock them.
ReplyDelete:-( That's depressing to hear about the shipping costs being just as much of a hindrance in Europe as it is here. I always try to resell items here in the US if I've had them shipped from outside the states, but that is no guarantee that there will be any demand, and that always means I will still lose the original shipping costs.
DeleteI live in Croatia, and it is so unbelievably hard to find a bra that fits, let alone anything else..For instance, Triumph manufactures bras up to 95G, but they don't import 75G (I think that is about 34 F in US measures) to Croatian market.. store-ladies tell me they tried to order it, but they don't have full range of sizes available for Croatia. I would gladly boycott them If I had any other brand that makes models that fit my shape available (Anita is available but their cups are not fitting well). I just cant order a bra without trying it on, so I have to take a shopping trip to the neighboring country when I need to stock up..And their sport bra is not available in my size even in stores in Austria, oh they make it, but apparently, you have to go to the factory to try it on and buy it. Because "there are not many girls that need my size". Not true.
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